Dear Mr. Antagonist
Recently I came across an letter/what-have-you written by an ex-member about the Offensive. Seems that x's have it in their heads that the Offensive is going to be a grand money-gathering scheme by the upper level of WS which will then climax in a worldwide mass suicide of all family members. WS will then go off to live in grand mansions in someplace exotic and live happily ever after.
Honestly now, dear Mr, Antagonist, how stupid do you think we are? Do you really think that anyone in their right minds would go along with that sort of thing? To be honest, you disgust me with your blatant stupidity! You go on sites called "Moving On" and continually whine about your life in The Family. Think about it, if you ever wanted to "move on" from something isn't trying not to think about it the first step to doing so? Aren't your whiny drivels a little counterproductive?
Don't get me wrong, I have many friends/family that have left the Family and I still keep in good contact with them. I still love them and I respect their decisions. What bothers me though is when some people leave and come up with grandiose stories about how they had to eat rat brains the size of locomotives in the combo homes, or say that I am brainwashed and throwing my life away because I do not believe what they have become "enlightened" to.
So what if I never make alot of money? I got a job that I love and I go to bed each night happy because I know that I did something good for humanity today. When was the last time you did something nice for a complete stranger, for no reason at all except that you loved him? He's a person just like you are. He's got a life, and friends, and worries, and fears too. When was the last time you did something nice for him just because of that: out of respect and love for his humanity? Until you have don't try to tell me that I'm not following the Bible or that I'm not a disciple of Jesus. I really don't care when you say "You'd never make it out in the system" because I don't want to and its o.k because you'd never make it in the Family. So therefore go on and live your life and move on with it. Stop trying to make me think that mine isn't that great because your not the one living it so how can you judge me, really? I'm the bride of Christ, a hardcore disciple of the Teaching. So fuck the system and fuck the world and all its ways. I got my Jesus and that is all that I really need to be happy.
posted by thisisme @ 11:14 PM
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9 Comments:
I have a few questions/comments Dre, and I can assure you dear, none of them are meant to offend.
#1: What were you doing on an X-Member site, if you don't care what they think?
#2: Anyone can make it in TFI; all they have to do is what everyone else is doing.
#3: Not all the stories you hear from ex-members are total bs. A good amount of them happen to be true, whether you'd like to admit it or not. The fact that they are widely known about and TFI members still make excuses or fall back on the *you are lying* theory, is what actually pisses most ex-members off.
Point being, there are two sides to every story, and you are making as many unfounded accusations as they are. Peace, and I hope you actually take some of this to heart. Meh, probably not.
I wasn't on an X-member site doll. It was a letter that was sent to me by way of a third party.
I beg to differ on your comment about "Anyone can make it in TFI" though. Because, if anyone can make it in TFI why don't they? Its a lifestyle, when you think of it, and unless you fully live it you'll never truly understand. There is about as much variety in the Family as there are people. So to even suggest that its "automaton" is ridiculous really.
I never said that all the stories I hear from x-members are bs. What bothers me though is when they get the ear and sympathy for stories that are so absolutely ridiculous that you wonder if they even believe their own crap that their spewing...That was the whole purpose of this rant, really.
some people are here just because they like the lifestyle... the "beer" so to speak... and are only in on the outside... their heart is elsewhere though they are here... partly because they are too scared to think of leaving as an option, too proud, or too lazy and comfortable to do anything... such are actually encouraged to leave... repeatedly... compared to the system it is easy... you have guarenteed a roof to sleep under, food to eat, and people who love you and truly care for you... no one < wants i> to loose that do they? and so they go along with the flow, go through the motions say 'Thank you Jesus' and 'Praise the Lord' without truly giving up anything not truly living the sacrificial life of a missionary... it's sickening really, that they fool them selve so... the sooner they wake up and realize that they are decieving themselves the better...
what bothers me is when people blame the rules and blame the principles, and blame the Lord when really it's individual people who have done such things to them... alot of times it was the people who were wrong, sometimes out of ignorance sometimes not, but the point is that it's people... human beings like you and me... to say that the things we stand for are the cause of it all is ridiculous because such things are clearly discouraged, condemned even, in the family...
one may reason that we went about these things in a "sorry cause we got caught" way... but, then why would we go through all the trouble of making such offenses (you know what I mean)excomicable
and even renouncing, RENOUNCING, any such literature that may condone in any possible way such actions? doesn't that prove we actually love and wish to protect our members specifically our children?
I hope that came out right... it's just that these are pretty much the same questions/comments that my brother asked me when he came over here and so it has had some time to ferment in my mind...
amen dre tell it like it is. & definitely not anyone can make it in TFI or there'd be a hell of a lot more ppl. I think aueen killjoy better go kill some joy or sorrow or something, but find something better to do.
I had a long and drawn out rebuttal to this, but I'll not post it. Not because I'm wrong, but because it will go nowhere and fall on deaf ears, so to speak. As I clearly stated, I didn't wish to offend you; I was just making a comment, which I apologize for. Not because I feel it should not have been said, but because it apparently offended someone. And as far as cid's comment goes, I'll comment where I choose; it was not directed to you, and I honestly don't see why, instead of saying something mildly intelligent, you had to resort to a sad, indirect attempt at telling me off. Again, I apologise, Andre, if I offended YOU. The rest of the people commenting I couldn't give a rat's ass about, but I do care about you. Feel free to delete my comments, if you choose. I honestly don't care.
oops...
I am sorry, madame. I think I overreacted... it's just it wasn't you... it was me... like I said I've been mulling over these things for a while and so this is just them boiling over...and your comment didn't help... I think I got a little caried away... my case probably isn't very well presented, but if you were offended I appologize... after all it's not you it was me
Oh, no you didn't offend me at all. If I understood your comment correctly, you touched on a few good points. ANYBODY CAN make it in tfi if they go through the motions (tyj, ptl, yadda yadda), but some people choose to leave and live the lives that can actually be fulfilling for them and give them something to live for, something more than a roof over their heads and food to eat.
And yes, maybe in some cases you can't blame the rules and principals for what has happened to many people in tfi, but you have to understand that horrifying as the actions were, a good deal of them were done as a direct cause of many of the earlier publications and letters sent out to tfi members. I'm not going to get into that because it's much too long and most of it won't be appropriate right now (wouldn't want another cranky git to be offended, and again, not referring to revig). If you actually want to converse with me on the subject you can find my contact info on my profile. I am done here, I won't post again on the subject. If anyone has a whiny rebuttal or even something mildly interesting to say to me, don't post it on my brother's blog; rather send it my way so I can deal with it without having to censor myself. Peace, out.
well lets just say that anyone can be in the family but not everyone can make it...
and just to point out often it was their interpretation of them, what they thought it said...
I may be naive, but I can think for myself...
but this doesn't matter, no use beating a dead horse after all... it's been fun, but I'm afraid I'll have to decline, it would be pointless as we both know what we believe and will just end up with hurt feelings and fingers...
and with that I leave you I think I've stuck my neck out far enough already...
cheerio
I Just read your post,man. So I ain't gonna go back and read the comments after this one since I am happy with what i got out of it. and basically what i got out of it was: Stop dwelling on the past!!! So what if you're a in the family, an ex-member, or even just sitting on the fence. the past is sure to slowly eat you out from the inside no matter where you are. We in the Family just simply try and focus on forgiveness as to not let hurt feelings or wrong doings be the cause of our despairs and troubles in the present. this enables us to have clear hearts to proceed with what we enjoy doing most in the world, and that is serving Jesus. But props to all you ex-members who have infact forsook the past and moved on with your lives. these are the people I to this day can talk to and enjoy their company, simply because there is no drama. I dig your post man, glad you are doing what you love; that should be all that matters to someone no matter where they end up. I don't care for the drama of the past though it will always be in my mind. why weaken myself with dwelling on it? Not me, I see the drama all around me, but i chose to be separate. Thanx for this encouraging post brother, You're good by me.
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